ruudboek

I've tested it, it's perfect, the speed is great and i have not been able to reproduce the problem, so this looks like it is solved. :)

Thanks david, especially for for the quick response.

It seems to be fixed which is great, the downside however is that it is a lot slower in finishing the search before the opening of the session is started.

It is a great deal slower actually, it takes about 4 seconds after i press enter before the session is being opened. That used to be just about instantly.

I personally don't think that 4 seconds is acceptable.

Are there perhaps some optimizations that can be made to speed it up?

Hi,

i created a bug report for this in this bugs-forum, because that makes it easier to track this problem, but also because i found out this this problem seems to not exist in the older version 5.8.2.0.

I did another test and i noticed that this is what actually happens when you press enter too quickly:

The last session that you had opened is opened again. So the problem is not that it opens just anything it has found during typing.

How to reproduce:

1. We are using a mdb database that is present on a share, maybe it would be a good idea idea to try to reproduce the problem by using an mdb file as well.

2. Make sure there are about 10 groups, each with about 60 RDP sessions in it. Some with sub-sessions that represent a browser session.

3. Expand one of the groups.

4. Select one of the first sessions in the list.

5. Do a search for a session that is present almost at the end of the list. Do the search by typing in the last 5 characters of the name of the session. Type it in quickly and immediately after typing it in press the "enter" key.

6. The previously selected session will now be opened, not the one that was matched by the search.

I reinstalled the older version 5.8.2.0 and was unable to reproduce the problem in that version. I am under the impression the older version was much faster at displaying the results when searching.

I think this problem has been introduced in the beta (tested on 5.9.0.19-5.9.0.21) and should therefore be solved before the final version is released.

edited by ruudboek on 2/14/2011

edited by ruudboek on 2/14/2011

I'm not sure whether this problem is related to this beta or not, but me and my colleagues have frequently found that when doing a search in the search field and then immediately pressing "Enter" to open a RDP session results in that an RDP session to a different server is opened.

The reason why i don't think that this is related to the beta version is that at the same time that we installed the latest beta version we also added quite a lot of new session to RDM.

I was able to reproduce the problem, from what i saw was that when you are typing the name of the server, the tree is continuously updated with matching servernames.

When you then do a very quick "Enter" right after you finished typing in the name, you can see in the list pane that at the moment you press enter, the list did not quite finish displaying the final match to the name of the session.

What then happens, is that the first match of name of the session when about 4 out of 5 characters have been typed in is opened. The match of 4 characters is the wrong match.

What is comes down to essentially, is that the enter key is not queued to wait for the session list to finish displaying the end result of the search.

We use a mdb database on a share which currently has a size of about 1,5 mb.

Ah it should work with firefox though, because the RAC is also able to provide a javaapplet.

However i've just tried to go to the RAC from and embedded firefox session and it only shows me a blank page. Nothing else happens.

It did download and install xulrunner though.

edited by ruudboek on 2/11/2011

It can't because firefox does not support active-x.

It is internet explorer 8. Yes, i use the latest 5.9.0.21 beta version.

It works find if i open the console link in internet explorer, so i definitely think that it has something to do with the embedding.

Hi david, if that would be possible, it think it would make RDM more rock solid.

We use RDM to open embedded Internet Explorer sessions to the RAC (Remote Access Controller) of our Dell servers.

The Dell RAC requires an active-x component which we had already installed before we opened the embedded session to a RAC.

We are able to open the embedded Internet Explorer session to the RAC of the server and login to the RAC.

In the RAC web interface we go to console and click on a link called "Connect".

This always opens a new window (popup) displaying the screen of the Dell server.

I can see that a new tab in the RDM internet explorer is being opened and then RDM crashes with this error:

AccessViolationException - Attempted to read or write protected memory. This is often an indication that other memory is corrupt.

at System.Windows.Forms.UnsafeNativeMethods.DispatchMessageW(MSG& msg)

at System.Windows.Forms.Application.ComponentManager.System.Windows.Forms.UnsafeNativeMethods.IMsoComponentManager.FPushMessageLoop(Int32 dwComponentID, Int32 reason, Int32 pvLoopData)

at System.Windows.Forms.Application.ThreadContext.RunMessageLoopInner(Int32 reason, ApplicationContext context)

at System.Windows.Forms.Application.ThreadContext.RunMessageLoop(Int32 reason, ApplicationContext context)

at System.Windows.Forms.Application.Run(Form mainForm)

at Devolutions.RemoteDesktopManager.Program.Main(String[] args)

Bear in mind that if you want RDM to appeal to ICT people, getting a Dell RAC webinterface to function properly in RDM is quite important.

Dell servers are extremely popular and very common.

We use internet explorer 8 on Windows 7.

edited by ruudboek on 2/11/2011

I'm not sure whether this problem is related to this beta or not, but me and my colleagues have frequently found that when doing a search in the search field and then immediately pressing "Enter" to open a RDP session results in that an RDP session to a different server is opened.

The reason why i don't think that this is related to the beta version is that at the same time that we installed the latest beta version we also added quite a lot of new session to RDM.

I was able to reproduce the problem, from what i saw was that when you are typing the name of the server, the tree is continuously updated with matching servernames.

When you then do a very quick "Enter" right after you finished typing in the name, you can see in the list pane that at the moment you press enter, the list did not quite finish displaying the final match to the name of the session.

What then happens, is that the first match of name of the session when about 4 out of 5 characters have been typed in is opened. The match of 4 characters is the wrong match.

What is comes down to essentially, is that the enter key is not queued to wait for the session list to finish displaying the end result of the search.

We use a mdb database on a share which currently has a size of about 1,5 mb.

edited by ruudboek on 2/11/2011

1. Close your RDM.

2. Go to C:\Program Files\Devolutions\RemoteDesktopManager.

3. Create a file with the name override.cfg.

4. Edit override.cfg with notepad en put in the following text:

C:\Program Files\Devolutions\RemoteDesktopManager\Config

5. Create the following folder:

"C:\Program Files\Devolutions\RemoteDesktopManager\Config"

6. Copy your existing C:\Users\username\AppData\Local\Devolutions\RemoteDesktopManager\RemoteDesktopManager.cfg to "C:\Program Files\Devolutions\RemoteDesktopManager\Config".

7. Start and close RDM, you should now see that the date modified of "C:\Program Files\Devolutions\RemoteDesktopManager\Config\RemoteDesktopManager.cfg" has changed, hence it works.

i would like for a few groups to only exist at the bottom of the list.

Since the list ordering is alphabetically is have put the letter Z in front of the name of the group.

Is there maybe another way or maybe another character one can use to make a group reside at the bottom of the list?

edited by ruudboek on 2/6/2011

Hi david,

could you also add embedded browser support for google chrome?

Ruud

Yeh, that's also a very good idea! When it is marked, typing will clear it automatically.

Very good idea imho.:)

When i type in the search field and find the server i want to take over with rdp i press the enter key and the rdp session to the server is opened.

That is fine.

However, when i want to search again i first have to clear the search field before i can type in the name of another server.

Wouldn't it be much more efficient if the search field would clear automatically after you press the "Enter' key?

Or maybe you could make an option for that, that users can enable or disable to their liking.

The override.cfg file works for me now. I've created a folder named config in the installation dir of RDM. Then i placed the RemoteDesktopManager.cfg in C:\Program Files\Devolutions\RemoteDesktopManager\Config.

edited by ruudboek on 2/3/2011

@ Xanacas,

same here, i've just tested your method (renaming the existing remotedesktopmanager.cfg to override.cfg) and i get an error as well.

Is that a bug?

Hi,

what exactly should i put in the override.cfg? Just the path or the complete contents or my existing RemoteDesktopManager.cfg?

Hi,

Sorry for the delay. I took some note for the global settings and it's a good idea. For now the only work around I have for you is to create a file Override.cfg and put the path or empty to use the installation path. You need the beta version for that.

Hi dhervieux,

that override.cfg workaround sounds pretty interesting already.

Where should i place the override.cfg file, in C:\Program Files\Devolutions\RemoteDesktopManager?

The config file i would like to use is "C:\Program Files\Devolutions\RemoteDesktopManager\RemoteDesktopManager.cfg"

The latest beta version is 5.9.0.9 right?

I would like to create one silent install that includes settings such as the path where the .mdb file of the database is present.

In previous versions of RDM i used to simply copy the RemoteDesktopManager.cfg file to C:\Program Files\Devolutions\RemoteDesktopManager.

In newer versions however, this file is now placed in the user profile, in C:\Users\username\AppData\Local\Devolutions\RemoteDesktopManager.

This makes it very difficult (impossible for me) to deploy those settings along with the silent install.

Is there a workaround possible?

If there is not, would it be possible to make RDM always use RemoteDesktopManager.cfg from C:\Program Files\Devolutions\RemoteDesktopManager if it is present there and then ignore any RemoteDesktopManager.cfg file from C:\Users\username\AppData\Local\Devolutions\RemoteDesktopManager?

What would be even better if it would be possible to make it possible to put global settings, such as the database path, in a cfg file in C:\Program Files\Devolutions\RemoteDesktopManager and settings that are really user related in a cfg file in C:\Users\username\AppData\Local\Devolutions\RemoteDesktopManager.

Yes, that workaround is possible, but not very pretty.

I think if it would be possible to manually change the order per user, independent from the database, that would be ideal.

A colleague of mine does not want to change his royal ts for RDM simply because it is not possible in RDM to manually sort the (sub) groups under the Sessions in the tree view.

He would like for a specific group to always be available at the top of the treeview list.

I noticed that RDM always sorts the treeview list alphabetically, would it be possible to introduce an option in RDM that would allow for manual sorting of the groups?

I'm not sure whether this is a bug or intended behavior so let me begin by what i want the tray icon to do when i click on it.

When i single-click the tray icon i want RDP to come to front at all times and show me RDP window in a maximized state.

The way it works right now: RDP is maximized, i click on the X (close) and RDP then minimizes to the tray.

When i then single-click on the icon in the tray, the RDM window is brought to front in maximized state.

When i then switch to another application so that the window of that other application is brought to front (maximized) and i THEN single-click on the RDM icon in the tray, nothing happens.

Apparently that last single click made the RDM windows minimize, so i have to click the RDM tray icon AGAIN to bring the RDM window to front.

I don't want that, the way it works right now is just plain annoying, i want a single-click to ALWAYS bring the RDM window to front.

Basically i would like consisent behaviour of the RDM window when clicking on the RDM tray icon.

Could you make the tray icon behave that way, or at least implement an option that would make it possible to make it behave that way?

B.t.w. i have tried enabling the option "Always restore Remote Desktop Manager on open session", i'm not sure what that option should do exactly, but it made no difference for this problem.

edited by ruudboek on 4/15/2010

I've just tested version 5.7.3.0, the above mentioned "double click" problem is still present in that version.

I noticed that this problem seems to be addressed in the latest version 5.7.2.0.

When i start RDM from the icon in my Advanced Launcher bar (or from the windows 7 taskbar) and then after some time start it again, the always on top of my advanced launcher bar is no longer reset.

However it is not completely solved!

Because when i start RDM from the icon in the advanced launcher bar (or the rdm icon in my windows 7 taskbar) and then very quickly click on the rdm icon again, always on top applications are reset again.

So the problem still occurs when you quickly click the RDM icon 2 times, one time just right after the other.

This "doubleclick" problem may seem irrelevant, but it happens to me at least once a day that because of that bug the "allways on top" is reset of my Advanced Launcher bar.

Can you reproduce this also?